Four Months Felt Like Four Years
It’s been 6 months since the last episode, and it feels like everything has changed. Bret and Nirmal catch you up on the increasing pace of AI change, how it will likely affect DevOps engineers and platform builders, and what’s coming on the podcast.
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★Show Links★
- Agent Harness Skills https://agentskills.io
- Video of Gradel CEO "You can write code faster, can you deliver it faster?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXNJ9_sHuM
- Is your team still hand-chiseling code? https://www.geocod.io/code-and-coordinates/2026-01-21-hand-chiseling-code/
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- (00:00) - ADOP - Feb 26, 2026
- (02:23) - Introduction
- (03:00) - Season Two Kickoff
- (04:34) - Productivity Debate and Two AI Camps
- (06:48) - Ops View from Dev Retreats
- (10:05) - Automation Debt and App Tsunami
- (16:29) - Frontier Models Changed Everything
- (22:29) - Red Pill vs Blue Pill Skepticism
- (25:31) - Three Focus Areas for DevOps
- (27:51) - GitHub Copilot and Agentic Workflows
- (31:17) - Harnesses That Run Longer
- (31:51) - Skills As SOPs
- (34:30) - Guardrails For App Tsunami
- (36:30) - Agent Orchestration a nd Kubernetes
- (37:50) - Shadow IT Goes AI
- (38:30) - Inner Loop Diagram Breakdown
- (40:54) - AI Code Review Councils
- (43:09) - Context Layer And Docs Debt
- (49:23) - Career Waves to Agent Ops
- (57:29) - Future Guests and Episodes
- (01:00:45) -
Creators and Guests
Host
Bret Fisher
Cloud native DevOps Dude. Course creator, YouTuber, Podcaster. Docker Captain and CNCF Ambassador. People person who spends too much time in front of a computer.
Producer
Beth Fisher
Producer of the DevOps and Docker Talk and Agentic DevOps podcasts. Assistant producer on Bret Fisher Live show on YouTube. Business and proposal writer by trade.
Editor
Cristi Cotovan
Video editor and educational content producer. Descript, Camtasia and Riverside coach.